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Post18 Aug 2005 11:25 am
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Aside from the fact that "Grade school mentality" is a pretty condescending term, I can verify that no institute of higher learning I've been to has considered a 60 to be passing either.

Not that I dislike the S/P scale, I'm just saying, in America anyway, you spend 16-20 years knowing that if you got a 60 on something, you've failed it.
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Post18 Aug 2005 11:28 am
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Notelgnis wrote:
Aside from the fact that "Grade school mentality" is a pretty condescending term, I can verify that no institute of higher learning I've been to has considered a 60 to be passing either.

Not that I dislike the S/P scale, I'm just saying, in America anyway, you spend 16-20 years knowing that if you got a 60 on something, you've failed it.


I personally feel the academic system is flawed and therefore I spit in the face of academic grading!!!

Just wait till my students get 60% and I tell them "don't worry about it." because in my book that's a B-.

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Post18 Aug 2005 12:11 pm
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Aside from the fact that "Grade school mentality" is a pretty condescending term...

Oh, so YOU were the friend Mac was referring to. Razz

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I can verify that no institute of higher learning I've been to has considered a 60 to be passing either.

ASU considers it a 'D', which is... generally passing. But then again, this is ASU we're talking about.

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Not that I dislike the S/P scale, I'm just saying, in America anyway, you spend 16-20 years knowing that if you got a 60 on something, you've failed it.

That's the academic paradigm. The scores are like that to encourage mastery of the subject matter.

Our system should be thought of sort of as a "bell curve" scenario. The absolute worst and best grades are at the extreme ends, but the vast majority of grades lumped towards the middle. We call our grades "percentages", but we treat them more like percentiles.

You know this, and I know you know it, but that's what we were getting at with the "grade school mentality". Perhaps I could've avoided the fusion if I'd chosen an arbitrary base number--say 36 or 128 instead of 100--but our system is different enough as it is. The 0-100 scales at least provide a bit of familiarity to someone who might glance at the site for the first time.
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