the thread where i bitch about george lucas...

[sprouticus]

is anybody else pissed about the changes he's making for the star wars dvds?? the special editions were bad enough, but now he's changing even more!
- changing boba fett's voice to match jango fett's (man, boba's voice was so great to begin with...grr)
- changing the hologram of palpatine to match the prequels (this isn't that big a deal, but the old hologram was so creepy)
- HAN SHOOTS FIRST!
- inserting palpatine addressing the senate (just plain redundant)
- inserting a young anakin in place of the old one at the end of Jedi (#$@*&%, that doesn't even make sense! there's no logic behind that! he doesn't die young, luke's never seen him young, he's gonna wonder who the fuck the guy is standing next to his buddies. bah!)

i won't even mention what i hate about the special editions, cuz i could go on forever. it just pisses me off that instead of lucas making his prequels to match the continuity of the OT, he's just changing the OT because he's lazy. what sucks is that he tries to cover his mistakes with changes, which leads to more mistakes and even more changes. it's a horrible cycle and he's ruining one of the best trilogies ever. he didn't even direct empire or jedi, if i were those guys, i'd be so unbelievably mad. i dunno, lucas created this huge fan base for his movies and then he acts like he could give two shits about them and what they think. he's just a greedy, money grubbing bastard.

ok, i'm done ranting. anybody have any thoughts?

[Reel Monkey]

Yeah, I'm totally against the whole changing of a movie thing. Especially with him making the other prints unavailable ever again. I'm just glad I have a good print of the original versions of the movies. Those are the best and always will be.

so when I heard they were changing the movies a second time for the DVD release, I flew into a rage. BITTER!!

But... from what I understand the above changes still are unsubstantiated. Like, Han is actually still shooting second and the changing of Anakin at the end was a hoax and has not been confirmed. But I hope they don't change too much. That'd totally suck... I really wish they'd leave stuff alone... and just like, release directors cuts, instead of destroying history.


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[sprouticus]

actually the last i heard, the ending of jedi with anakin was confirmed. how shitty is that? if i could find the link i'd post it, i'm still looking. but ya, it sucks that he won't even release the originals along with the new ones. there comes a point where films grow beyond the filmmakers and changing them is almost a betrayal. anywho, i've got two sets of the originals on vhs and one set on laserdisc, so i guess i should be happy for a while.

[Thom]

Unsubstantiated perhaps, but I've heard so much about this over the past several years and the reports are so consistent--not only with each other but with Lucas' mentality--that I don't doubt them much at all.

I'm very disappointed in it all. I know I'm not alone here in growing up with the originals, and Lucas has just lost all sense of what made them great to begin with. And the argument that "I'm just older now and can't appreciate them the same way" is baseless... I can still pull out my crappy old VHS copies and sit in awe of them for hours.

[sprouticus]

http://ubb.empireonline.co.uk/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=matrix&Number=718150&M

here's the link where i found all of the changes. it does say that they're "nearly" confirmed, whatever that means, so i guess there's still hope that lucas won't completely screw everything up. but i've long since lost my faith in him.

[Thom]

Yep. I normally oppose piracy, but if anyone ever asks about the bootleg DVDs from the pre-Special Edition laserdisc, I say go for it, because Lucas will never give us what we want.

[sprouticus]

if you go to originaltrilogy.com you can sign a petition along with 60,000+ other people for the release of the original trilogy. it probably won't make a difference, but one can still hope.
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[Reel Monkey]

yeah, Mac just watched a piece of the bootleg of the ending and some guy he knows was all talking up the changes and stuff. Greedo still shoots first and apparently the guy was impressed for the most part. I don't know, I guess I don't mind Hayden Anakin at the end. I mean, we didn't know who the other guy was at first either. I remember being a little kid going "who is that man on the left?" cause you never see him as that until then... but here's the link to the video. Um... it actually is kinda unimpressive. I mean, he's just standing there and stuff. I mean, even Obi puts his hand on Yoda. Eh... I don't know. I'll stick to my originals.

http://www.filmhobbit.com/moviereviews/movie-images/news/reporters/rotj.mov
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[BrokenMobile]

alright this has been bugging me and i hope i don't get yelled at for it, but whats with the whole han/greedo shooting first? i know the film in question (i'm not *that* bad) and i even know the scene in question... but whats the big deal? what does it matter if X shoots before Y ?
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[BrokenMobile]

ah, thanx Mac
but is han really a "hard-bitten" smuggler? besides his arrogance, is there really anything to suggest it? (i honestly don't remember, haven't watch any star wars in ages)
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[sprouticus]

watched the bootleg ending....GRR! that's so frustrating. it makes no logical sense whatsoever. why don't we see fucking ewan macgregor standing there? why does anakin get to be young? that's just stupid. plus i hate the fact that they changed the music at the end of jedi from the ewok song to that stupid choir. the ewok song rocked! grr...just grr.
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